Cyclone .177 Pellet test

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Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby riz on Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:48 pm

Hi folks,

As promised to Zero4k here are the first test shots of a few different type of pellets:

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Various pellets @30m FX Cyclone .177
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Conditions were less than ideal (very windy day) and my shooting rest was just a foldable chair so please do not consider this a scientific test, I'm just sharing my experience on the first few mags of various pellets.

Each target were shot from 30 meters one full magazine (8 shots). I started from a 200 bar fill and shot two magazines (16 shots) before the tests.
Holes marked with ? are flyers most likely caused by wind gusts. Wind was blowing from right to left most of the time.

Pellets used:
1st row:
RWS Superdome 4.5mm 8.3 gr (left)
Crosman Premier Heavy 4.5mm 10.5 gr (right) - not so good shooting by me...
2nd row:
JSB Exact Heavy 4.52mm 10.34 gr (left)
JSB Exact RS 4.52mm 7.33 gr (right)
3rd row:
RWS Superdome 4.5mm 8.3 gr (left)
Crosman Premier Heavy 4.5mm 10.5 gr (right) - I did better here

I repeated the Crosman Premier Heavy test as I believed I could do better (and I was right)
Some plinking later after 12 magazines (96 shots) my gauge shows around 140 bars. That's very good for an unregulated gun me thinks.

I know my shooting skills lack some but I hope the above is useful. Any comments are more than welcome.
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby Zero4k on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:54 pm

I think considering the weather plus it's a brand new rifle things are looking good. Crosmans are pretty good pellets and showed this second time around, I've found they give a little less power due to their slightly smaller size but accuracy is usually very good, the boxed ones are the best if you can get them. I'm not surprised with the JSB's, I've had great results with them too - the RS's did well in the wind being so light - impressive.

You can allow for a breeze but gusts mess things up completely - nice shooting riz :D.

If you have the time and want to be bothered, weighing pellets does make a bit of a difference to the vertical POI, I don't go too mad but I generally split tins into two weight groups, if any are way out I put them to one side for short distance targets.
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby riz on Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:00 pm

Zero4k wrote:If you have the time and want to be bothered, weighing pellets does make a bit of a difference to the vertical POI, I don't go too mad but I generally split tins into two weight groups, if any are way out I put them to one side for short distance targets.


I don't have a precise enough scale to weigh individual pellets but I guess I would have been lacking the patience anyway :D

A few other things I noticed:
Premier Heavies were a bit difficult to load in the breech. The lever/probe took some unusual force to push them through. These are the boxed version:
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JSB RS' were grouping so well that I'll investigate further.

RWS Superdomes made a pinging noise when fired that no other pellets produced - and I'm not talking about impact noise. :shock:
And seemed like all of them tended off left (likely the wind).

BTW those heavy rounds were not that affected by the wind.
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby Zero4k on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:19 pm

I've never been a fan of RWS pellets but maybe it depends on the rifle. I'm new to .177 but have already decided to use the JSB Exacts and Heavy pellets in the main - the 10.3gr heavy has pretty much the same energy down range as the .22 JSB Exact 15.9gr at sub 12 ft/lbs - according to Chairgun so that's good in my mind.
Can't say I blame you not wanting to weigh pellets, I got some cheap scales from Ebay that go to .001 gn. It's just something I've got into - better than watching our much extended TV advert times anyway :lol:
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby riz on Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:51 pm

Zero4k wrote:Can't say I blame you not wanting to weigh pellets, I got some cheap scales from Ebay that go to .001 gn. It's just something I've got into - better than watching our much extended TV advert times anyway :lol:


Can you please link a tried & tested one? Thanks 8-)
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby Zero4k on Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:41 pm

No problem, I have a set exactly like these - just a different box when I bought mine. If you check out the weighing modes, they do grains and they go to .001. They've been absolutely fine for what I wanted :D
Current Ebay link for digital Scale 0.001g

As I mentioned in my "weighing fatigues" post, don't bother using the weighing pan - waste of time, just pop the pellet in the center of the pad using the supplied tweezers.
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby riz on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:23 pm

Well, today I tested the Crosman Premier Heavies a little more.
I'm disillusioned. Everything is fine up to 30 meters. But further... they just don't group.

55 meter tests showed 100-150 mm spread. Completely unacceptable.
Frankly holes scattered all over the page. I ruined the whole paper: 5 other targets :x

And this is not me. I can shoot 30-40mm groups with my HW97K using it's favourite pellet @50m
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby riz on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:25 pm

Stay tuned... Coming up next: JSB Exact Heavies
(a few days later)
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby Zero4k on Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:32 pm

Yeah, can't really describe those results as a group, more a general nuking of the entire target.... Very disappointing, could be due to a number of factors like batch number, size etc, look forward to seeing what the JSB's produce though a they are the right size ;)
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Re: Cyclone .177 Pellet test

Postby Zero4k on Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:37 pm

Hey riz, any news on the JSB Exact Heavies yet? :D
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