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FX Compressor

Postby Troubledshooter on Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:45 pm

I don't know if this is the correct section in which to post this thread, but as I can't find any other suitable, I will leave it to the moderators to move if necessary.
I have an FX compressor, and wondered if anyone else has any experience with maintenance/fault finding on this troublesome item. :cry:
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby ian johnstone on Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:57 pm

Hi there - I recognize the name from AirgunBBS :D

FXPoacher is going to do a strip-down on his stirrup pump & PolarWolf (our 'leader' :P ) has just said that he has a compressor, but which make I don't know !




[Dont let the bastards grind you down] was your 'siggy', I believe :D
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby PolarWolf on Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:08 pm

My compressor isn't the "personal" type. I reckon yours is one of them small 200bar ones which you use to pump up air cylinders. Mine is a 330bar 190l/min powerhouse running three fase 380V ;)

Anyway, technology wise I'm not really up to speed with these things. I'd say if you have issues with it it's probably best to have it looked at by someone who knows what he's doing. High pressure compressors are a pretty specialized piece of kit and unfortunately the maintenance is priced accordingly :(
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby ian johnstone on Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:57 pm

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Re: FX Compressor

Postby Troubledshooter on Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:19 pm

ian johnstone wrote:Is it this type 'troubledshooter'?
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Review% ... ylord.html


Yes, that's the one, Ian.
I have in the past tried getting some help from FX, but it's like banging one's head against a brick wall, as they tell me they can no longer contact the man who made the compressors, and know nothing about the working or maintenance of the unit.
I contacted Ruag Amotec who still had a small stock of spares, which they then sent to me, so I have rebuilt and refitted some of the parts, but I have now got another problem with the motor giving up the ghost at 100bar. I have tried another more powerful motor, but all this does is to increase the give up point to 150bar.
This problem has suddenly occurred, as it was filling buddy bottles to it's automatic cut off of 205bar after I had fitted a new non return valve to the pump unit. but has now developed this new problem. I think it may be down to the regulator unit, but have no knowledge how this works. It appears to be unique to this unit.
I was hoping someone on this forum might have experience with maintenance/fault finding on this compressor.
I will contact Ruag next week to see if they have any idea.
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby PolarWolf on Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:24 pm

Well, we have more members than just me and Ian, so maybe someone knows. You could also contact Gehmann as they (re)sold those things too, IIRC. Otherwise take it to a specialist. I'm sure it's not rocket science to them and with half a clue about HP compressors it should be fairly straightforward...right?
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby Troubledshooter on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:24 pm

I am hoping someone on this forum may have some knowledge of the workings of the FX compressor, as I have been unable to get any help whatsoever from FX.
In my opinion, their 'Customer Service', particularly in the UK, is a joke.
I like FX rifles, I have two of them, a Webley FX2000 in .177 and a Webley Spectre which I have just converted to .177, but I regret buying the compressor.
Through disability, I am unable to use a stirrup pump, so thought this compressor was the way to go as my nearest filling facility is many miles away. So far it has been a frustrating exercise.
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby PolarWolf on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:56 pm

Hm, customer server everywhere is a problem. I can imagine FX not being too keen ot either especially as they have no clue about them either. With "I can imagine" I don't condone it, though. If a product gets sold, it should receive the required support from the manufacturer. In general I'm happy with the after sales from FX, but then again I don't have one of their compressors :)

Annoying problem you have. From having a quick look at this it does look like an actively cooled motorized version of the stirrup pump. I'm not even going to guess to what is wrong with it, I have no clue about these things. Did FX mention who actually built these things?

You already had contact with Ruag, and further you might get some results asking:

* Deben (new FX importer and representative in the UK)
* BTAS (old version of the above)
* Gehmann

If those don't yield any results, another option can be to ask on the swedish airgun forum. Or maybe contact Hurricane (I know Tobbe actually has one of these compressors) or Progunner to see if they have an idea (or spare parts!).

I wish I could help you further, I really do.
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby Troubledshooter on Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:07 am

The FX Compressor I have is the one in the Pyramidair article, but why they show it with a divers bottle is beyond me, as it's only designed to fill buddy bottles, and has a warning sticker saying 0.50L/200bar. it gives the same warning in the instruction manual.
i initially spoke to Lars Johanson through FX, as he was responsible for building the compressor, but when I tried again some weeks later, I couldn't get hold of him, and according to FX, neither could they.
Ben Taylor didn't want to know as he'd never sold the compressor, which is hardly surprising as it hasn't been made for some time.
Phil at Ruag was the only one who tried to help, and they hadn't dealt with FX products for quite some time.
I will try the other forums mentioned.
I did speak to someone at Deben who told me "if FX can't help, we won't be able to ".
Your assistance is much appreciated. :)
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Re: FX Compressor

Postby FXpoacher on Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:15 am

Is it possible that it is just overheating?.
I know it's aircooled, but it is afterall just a hand pump with a motor fitted to it.
If you pump up untill it stops, switch off and wait an hour, will it then pump up to 200bar?.
It would prabably pump up a bottle as well, but would take a week to do it!.

The last time i had a bottle filled by the fire service, they pumped to 300bar, then put the bottle into a cold water bath, for an hour to cool it down. Then they re pumped again to 330 bar.
After they cooled it, it had only 280 bar of pressure!
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